Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps
"Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com> Fri, 26 December 2014 21:29 UTC
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From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps
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> On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:25 AM, IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org> wrote: I find the date, um, "interesting”. Personally, on December 25, I am involved with other activities. I note that my company generally makes financial announcements a few minutes after NASDAQ closes, and a variety of organizations make announcements when they think nobody is listening. Is the IETF...? > PRINCIPLES > > The IESG believes the re-organization should proceed according to the > following principles: > > 1) Agility: The IESG should be able to adapt as Internet engineering evolves. > When work focus shifts and new technologies emerge, it is critical that the > the IESG can follow the shift and effectively manage the new work. > > 2) Relevance: The organization of the technical work must facilitate the > IETF's continued relevance to the industry. As we change how we develop > technology throughout the Internet, the IETF must be able to change how our > standards development works with the technology development. > > 3) Flexibility: The organization of the IESG and of the technical areas should > accommodate variations in workloads, time commitments, and AD skillsets, as > well as changes in those over time. It is important to make it possible for > more IETF participants to be able to serve as Area Directors and to make the > work co-exist with their normal jobs. > > 4) Sustainability: The Area Director role should be a position that > accomplished engineers aspire to and that employers want to support. We should > emphasize the "steering" and "director" aspects, supporting and guiding the > technical work in the working groups. The principles make sense to me. What I might suggest is that the IESG first wonder among itself whether it has the right areas. Deciding to blur the boundaries between them might work in the short term, but ultimately isn’t an organizing principle. Suggesting that draft-whatever.all@tools.ietf.org should include every email address in the charter makes sense.
- Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisation s… Brian E Carpenter
- Mashing areas [Re: IETF areas re-organisation ste… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Stephen Farrell
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Eliot Lear
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Nico Williams
- Re: Mashing areas [Re: IETF areas re-organisation… Ted Lemon
- Re: Mashing areas [Re: IETF areas re-organisation… John Leslie
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Nico Williams
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Nico Williams
- Re: Mashing areas [Re: IETF areas re-organisation… John C Klensin
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Jari Arkko
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Jari Arkko
- Re: Mashing areas [Re: IETF areas re-organisation… Ted Lemon
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Pete Resnick
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Dave Crocker
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Pete Resnick
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Nico Williams
- General view of re-org proposal (was : Out-of-are… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Dave Crocker
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Nico Williams
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Nico Williams
- Re: Out-of-area ADs [Re: IETF areas re-organisati… Nico Williams
- term for 3rd RTG AD Michael Richardson
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Brian E Carpenter
- RE: term for 3rd RTG AD Adrian Farrel
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Yoav Nir
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Michael Richardson
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD John Leslie
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Brian E Carpenter
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Murray S. Kucherawy
- RE: term for 3rd RTG AD Adrian Farrel
- RE: term for 3rd RTG AD Michael StJohns
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Allison Mankin
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD joel jaeggli
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Michael Richardson
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Michael StJohns
- Re: term for 3rd RTG AD Michael Richardson
- IETF areas re-organisation steps IETF Chair
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Ted Hardie
- Re: General view of re-org proposal (was : Out-of… Jari Arkko
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Jari Arkko
- Re: General view of re-org proposal (was : Out-of… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Jari Arkko
- Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps Donald Eastlake