Re: Altmetrics issues - Research Suggestion:: Academic Identity Disclosure Protocol

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Mon, 28 November 2016 22:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: Altmetrics issues - Research Suggestion:: Academic Identity Disclosure Protocol
To: Nyagudi Musandu Nyagudi <nyagudim@yahoo.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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On 11/28/16 1:59 PM, Nyagudi Musandu Nyagudi wrote:
> Just a suggestion based on a felt need.
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> Today there are platforms such as Works at Bepress, that allow
> Researchers to Publish their findings and to gather Altmetrics data as
> to the Universities and Organizations from where the posted work is
> being downloaded to.  Though in many instances it is clear that from
> the IP numbers which particular Institutions that are downloading some
> publication - it is unclear who particular in those Institutions is
> making the downloads.
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> The Internet infrastructure at an Establishment could be configured to
> make that disclosure to web services such as Works at Bepress or
> Academic Journal Publishers.  That would not only make it clear where
> the work is being used but also, who in particular is making the
> initial use.  Is it under-graduate students, post-grads, Professors,
> Post-docs, and who in particular? A Research Assistant of an Eminent
> Professor? A Nobel Prize Winner? etc.  This kind of protocol would
> make it easier for people to use the Person-specific Altmetrics for
> Research Grant Proposals.

It possibly reasonable to ask if it is even appropriate to collect such
information at all.

> Hope several universities and companies shall enable the now
> hypothetical "Academic Identity Disclosure Protocol" on their
> infrastructure in the coming 7 years.  Even for non-open access
> publishers think about the options for revenue generation from copyright
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> Past suggestions before Crypto-currencies were invented.
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> Financial Standards Work group?
> <https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg13202.html>
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> <https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg13202.html>
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