Re: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 24 April 2019 21:11 UTC

Return-Path: <nico@cryptonector.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3818120170; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.001
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cryptonector.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nQRseaL0voJE; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:11:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from bonobo.maple.relay.mailchannels.net (bonobo.maple.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.214.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88DEF12015C; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:11:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|nico@cryptonector.com
Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05596A12A8; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:11:34 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-7-81.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.7.81]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 398B66A1092; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:11:34 +0000 (UTC)
X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|nico@cryptonector.com
Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a80.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:11:34 +0000
X-MC-Relay: Neutral
X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|nico@cryptonector.com
X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost
X-Belong-Soft: 6d00f9d53d333270_1556140294674_1772047935
X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1556140294674:1488761820
X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1556140294674
Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDD6809FA; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:11:28 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cryptonector.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=cryptonector.com; bh=69HP8jSXwgrm9B MCpfxnyeixeFA=; b=hPllw3/MZkDJvMl5dqYHZftOAr2c+c4RCDGwtEmnpnbvAB hm9u8YgO0ponOyQdChewVY2r+gHjX4o44FmyxRQ/H1OrugeaotZbOoZ0QAyCu9R2 wpAvbfEWicpZqrRAfoafYti0HMwkDRt9CpHLCYOc8qfPmdHnxdGJCXM6OwYP4=
Received: from localhost (unknown [24.28.108.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nico@cryptonector.com) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2430809D0; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:11:26 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:11:24 -0500
X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a80
From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Cc: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, ietf@ietf.org, gen-ads@ietf.org, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Subject: Re: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev
Message-ID: <20190424211123.GO3137@localhost>
References: <033d01d4f52f$c6f2dca0$54d895e0$@olddog.co.uk> <C7274EAB-7DDC-491F-9DD2-0CFFADB13CA9@cooperw.in> <72f00d0b-7ec6-ba6a-b17b-97879d457ae3@comcast.net> <CAKKJt-fOMMdM-mkbJaYpsH6XPCpatUkwZY-d_A+MaNa3nhaNDg@mail.gmail.com> <CABcZeBNdaWU4wwOK_MnWC5hOr7Lu3osmC_6_KKxB5fHuHVHyTw@mail.gmail.com> <23d54797-5c94-aa00-ec55-3f2c4fdfcfae@comcast.net> <6.2.5.6.2.20190424095017.13cdadc8@elandnews.com> <51068F13-E90F-42A2-8AE2-627D5E18B145@akamai.com> <20190424201939.GM3137@localhost> <6.2.5.6.2.20190424134823.0c9faf68@elandnews.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20190424134823.0c9faf68@elandnews.com>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28)
X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK
X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100
X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddrhedvgdehgecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujggfsehttdertddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpefpihgtohcuhghilhhlihgrmhhsuceonhhitghosegtrhihphhtohhnvggtthhorhdrtghomheqnecukfhppedvgedrvdekrddutdekrddukeefnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhinhgvthepvdegrddvkedruddtkedrudekfedprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppfhitghoucghihhllhhirghmshcuoehnihgtohestghrhihpthhonhgvtghtohhrrdgtohhmqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehnihgtohestghrhihpthhonhgvtghtohhrrdgtohhmpdhnrhgtphhtthhopehnihgtohestghrhihpthhonhgvtghtohhrrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/gMpI8679xzPrHHqpfqkhVI-ogdE>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:11:37 -0000

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 02:08:18PM -0700, S Moonesamy wrote:
> Hi Nico, Rich,
> At 01:19 PM 24-04-2019, Nico Williams wrote:
> > +1.  AD decisions to not sponsor a draft are really not the sort of
> > decisions that can be appealed.  You've got two ADs per-area, if you
> > can't get either of them, or any of the others, to sponsor your draft,
> > then maybe you're doing things wrong.  A BoF/WG seems like a fine
> > starting point.
> 
> I added a Cc to the Area Director as it is useful to know whether the
> decision can be appealed or not.

What's the problem with holding a BoF?