IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: several messages

"Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Wed, 12 November 2008 19:14 UTC

Return-Path: <ietf-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: ietf-archive@megatron.ietf.org
Delivered-To: ietfarch-ietf-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE9F3A68EF; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:14:55 -0800 (PST)
X-Original-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B2C3A68EF for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:14:54 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2pH0nOQwOuMe for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:14:54 -0800 (PST)
Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E344B3A6887 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:14:53 -0800 (PST)
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=aNTddgxD3oBG70/J7Dr9zH4Wh+QxbraifHArb0tMyOpbyN4OUfEfbwwDHVFAmLul; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;
Received: from [69.3.25.222] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>) id 1L0LB0-0004Ew-7p for ietf@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:14:54 -0500
Message-ID: <004d01c944fb$07a7fe60$6801a8c0@oemcomputer>
From: Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>
To: ietf@ietf.org
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0811111552410.4831-100000@citation2.av8.net> <200811120023.TAA05922@Sparkle.Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
Subject: Re: several messages
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:15:30 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478
X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d88858bc2ddbf51b90e462a1c60f72fe02c7e8674e773f9ccfe4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c
X-Originating-IP: 69.3.25.222
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org

Hi -

> From: "der Mouse" <mouse@Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
> To: <ietf@ietf.org>; <gen-art@ietf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: several messages
...
> Irrelevant.  The existence of amateurishly-run DNSBLs does not imply
> the nonexistence of well-run ones.  It _does_ mean that someone to whom
> email is important had better do due diligence in selecting DNSBLs -
> just as someone to whom a car is important had better do due diligence
> in selecting a mechanic, or someone to whom good clothes are important
> had better do due diligence in selecting a tailor....
...

Agreed, but if those analogies are correct, they also undermine the argument.
Neither the email sender nor the recipient (the ones to whom email is most
important) typically have any voice whatsoever in the selection of the DNSBL.

Randy

_______________________________________________
Ietf mailing list
Ietf@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email