Re: draft-dolson-plus-middlebox-benefits (was RE: Review of draft-mm-wg-effect-encrypt-09)
Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> Wed, 12 April 2017 13:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: draft-dolson-plus-middlebox-benefits (was RE: Review of draft-mm-wg-effect-encrypt-09)
From: Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:29:16 +0100
CC: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "ietf@ietf.org Discussion" <ietf@ietf.org>, "draft-dolson-plus-middlebox-benefits@tools.ietf.org" <draft-dolson-plus-middlebox-benefits@tools.ietf.org>
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> On 12 Apr 2017, at 12:52, Mirja Kühlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> wrote: > > describe the benefits in the sense of why do operator deploy those middleboxes. Then don’t call them ‘benefits’ - they aren’t universally of benefit. Call them ‘motivations’ or something, but I think a lot of people are reacting to the use of the word ‘benefit’ as that tends to imply something that is necessarily good. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Mat
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