Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

Bob Hinden <> Fri, 31 March 2017 15:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:42:10 -0500
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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 9:18 AM, IAOC Chair <> wrote:
> The IAOC remains committed to soliciting input on future IETF meeting locations. With this mail, we are soliciting input on some potential IETF locations, including one where we have met before, but for which conditions may have changed.
> Specifically, we seek community input on reasons we could not have a successful meeting in any of the following cities, or of any limits to attendee accessibility or inclusiveness that should be considered:
> Ottawa
> San Francisco
> Austin, TX
> Barcelona
> Boston
> Busan
> Calgary
> Denver
> Helsinki
> Houston
> New Orleans
> Osaka
> Philadelphia
> Washington DC

I have no issue with any of the cities above for future meeting sites, but I agree with the views that deferring future meetings in the US is prudent given the visa/entry issues.  We can have successful meetings in Canada or other places in North America.

Note, in picking venue locations in North America outside of the US, it important to pick locations that don’t require transit in the US.  In the list, I think Ottawa is fine, but not sure about Calgary.


> Please send input to It will help the review process if the Subject line had the name of the city first, Subject: <city>.
> As a reminder, is a dropbox e-mail address: its archive is publicly visible, but subscription is not available.
> Thanks,
> Leslie, for the IAOC.