Re: Please share your views in our first annual IETF community survey

[tom petch <[e-mail]>]

On 07/05/2021 14:14, Livingood, Jason wrote:
> This survey has been in the works since the Executive Director was hired, with the objective to strive to make more data-driven decisions & better understand the needs of the community. Jay has posted an email separately, which refers to a blog post at https://www.ietf.org/blog/first-annual-ietf-community-survey/. This was also most recently in the IETF LLC’s minutes at https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_LLC_2021_Strategic_Planning_Retreat_Minutes.pdf.
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> Jason
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> From: ietf <[e-mail]> on behalf of Jared Mauch <[e-mail]>
> Date: Friday, May 7, 2021 at 7:26 AM
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> If you have concerns feel free to email them to the IAB or I'd be happy to schedule time with you with IAB hat on to discuss them.
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> I will point out it was in the IAB minutes here:
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> https://www.iab.org/documents/minutes/minutes-2021/iab-minutes-2021-04-21/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.iab.org/documents/minutes/minutes-2021/iab-minutes-2021-04-21/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!Sh-BNxQ7CPkEqa4F-dXD4dy0rjGWlaS6oci8Ga49_Da935P723dvt8gCFDfLJPmCRZMdtQ$>
> Sent from my TI-99/4a

Thank you for the pointers.  I am on the ietf-announce list but the 
e-mail from Jay to that list came to me after I had received the one 
about the survey on a WG list and had completed the survey.  (In 
passing, I use more than one address to subscribe to WG lists but have 
ignored the later invitations to participate in the survey - I assume 
that it was humans that were expected to respond and not e-mail addresses!)

IAB minutes are not something I look at, unless, e.g., there is a post 
to an ietf list with a link to something there.   Likewise, LLC minutes 
I only look at when there is a pointer to them.  I have been around 
since before the Executive Director was hired but, again, did not notice 
any reference to the survey.

Not, I think, worth taking up IAB time with.

Tom Petch

> On May 7, 2021, at 4:24 AM, tom petch <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> On 07/05/2021 01:18, IETF Executive Director wrote:
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> Hi
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> I am writing to you from the IETF to ask you to participate in our first annual IETF community survey.  This survey will help us better understand our community and its makeup, get your views on how well the IETF works for you and your perceptions of the IETF, and give us insight into how we compare to similar organisations.  Even if you no longer participate in the IETF or have never actively participated, we still want to hear from you.
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> I am slightly surprised not to see something from the IETF Chair about this, such as who commissioned the survey and why.  I note that one of the questions is about how well the IETF is managed and the lack of anything from IETF Chair, IESG (IAB?) etc beforehand colours my response to that question.  I would have expected advance warning from some such.
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> Tom Petch
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> Please help us by filling out this survey, it should only take about six minutes of your time:
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>     https://ietf.iad1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_b9ibDun9807ZT8O<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/ietf.iad1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_b9ibDun9807ZT8O__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!Sh-BNxQ7CPkEqa4F-dXD4dy0rjGWlaS6oci8Ga49_Da935P723dvt8gCFDfLJPkV60pJIA$>
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> This survey is completely anonymous and the only data we collect are the answers that you provide, nothing else.
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> You have received this email because your email address is subscribed to at least one IETF mailing list.  You may unsubscribe from all future emails regarding this survey here: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-surveys<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-surveys__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!Sh-BNxQ7CPkEqa4F-dXD4dy0rjGWlaS6oci8Ga49_Da935P723dvt8gCFDfLJPkGNcaY4Q$>
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> To find out more about this survey, please see this blog post:
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>     https://www.ietf.org/blog/first-annual-ietf-community-survey/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ietf.org/blog/first-annual-ietf-community-survey/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!Sh-BNxQ7CPkEqa4F-dXD4dy0rjGWlaS6oci8Ga49_Da935P723dvt8gCFDfLJPn6elN_SA$>
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> Thanks in advance
> Jay
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