Re: question to the IAOC: new committee members

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Thu, 17 November 2016 01:12 UTC

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:11:59 +0900
Subject: Re: question to the IAOC: new committee members
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
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I understand that and the workload increase, but clearly the way to accommodate to it, in a transparent way is to increase the number of seats, which I believe requires a small modification of RFC4071.

I think that “common” as you say is ok, but always with a predefined procedure, clear for all the community. For example:

1) There is some scoring to appoint people depending on their capabilities/merits?
2) Where are the detailed minutes of that decision process, so we can review it?

Regards,
Jordi


-----Mensaje original-----
De: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Organización: University of Auckland
Responder a: <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Fecha: jueves, 17 de noviembre de 2016, 4:26
Para: <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>, <ietf@ietf.org>, <iaoc@ietf.org>
Asunto: Re: question to the IAOC: new committee members

    Jordi,
    
    It's very common for committees to appoint sub-committees, within their
    range of responsibilities, and for sub-committees to coopt experts.
    
    I am not in the least shocked by this; in fact given the expansion of
    the IASA's workload over the last 10 years it seems entirely normal
    to me. I don't think anything has been hidden, and of course the IAOC
    as a whole remains responsible for the work of IASA subcommittees,
    according to section 3.2 of RFC4071. Specifically "The IAOC's mission
    is not to be engaged in the day-to-day administrative work of the IASA,
    but rather to provide appropriate direction, oversight, and approval."
    
    Regards
       Brian
    
    On 16/11/2016 23:38, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    > All the IETF positions have rules to be selected, nomcom, etc., and there is a great transparency on the process.
    > 
    > However today we discovered that new members have been selected for IAOC committees.
    > 
    > What have been the rules/process for that?
    > 
    > One of the questions that have been discussed several times is the lack of transparency from the IAOC, and clearly here we have a new demonstration of that.
    > 
    > I hope there is a clear statement from IAOC explaining the process.
    > 
    > If that not happens, what is the process to appeal that decision, so I can follow it?
    > 
    > We as a community, in my opinion, can’t keep going with this lack of transparency.
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
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