Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 01 April 2017 18:16 UTC
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If you haven't seen it, there's also a surveymonkey link about border crossing experiences at IETF 98 that is also appropriate for people who stayed home because of concerns and for US attendees who didn't cross borders, and the last question on the questionnaire is roughly "do you have concerns about future US meetings". I sent my comments there. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/WMNH9PS I assume the survey entries will become publicly available at some point - attendee surveys usually do. Thanks, Spencer On Mar 31, 2017 18:58, "Stewart Bryant" <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 31/03/2017 15:42, Eliot Lear wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> On 3/31/17 9:18 AM, IAOC Chair wrote: >> >>> The IAOC remains committed to soliciting input on future IETF meeting >>> locations. With this mail, we are soliciting input on some potential IETF >>> locations, including one where we have met before, but for which conditions >>> may have changed. >>> >>> Specifically, we seek community input on reasons we could not have a >>> successful meeting in any of the following cities, or of any limits to >>> attendee accessibility or inclusiveness that should be considered: >>> >>> Ottawa >>> San Francisco >>> Austin, TX >>> Barcelona >>> Boston >>> Busan - looks expensive to get to >>> Calgary - also looks expensive to get to >>> Denver >>> Helsinki >>> Houston >>> New Orleans >>> Osaka >>> Philadelphia >>> Washington DC >>> >> >> To save everyone doing it, it would be good to show representative > airfares and times from a major hub in Europe, East and West Coast, and Asia > > I am sure cost and travel time will impact acceptability. > > - Stewart > >
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Carsten Bormann
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Dave Crocker
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Loa Andersson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael Richardson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … John Leslie
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael Richardson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Ted Lemon
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … joel jaeggli
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michal Krsek
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Joel M. Halpern
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … nalini.elkins
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Stewart Bryant
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Fernando Gont
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michal Krsek
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Dave Crocker
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Fernando Gont
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael Richardson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Christian Hopps
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … nalini.elkins
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael Richardson
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Stephen Farrell
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Brian E Carpenter
- Structure of IETF meeting weeks (was: Re: IAOC re… Stephen Farrell
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Toerless Eckert
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks (was: Re: IAO… 'Toerless Eckert'
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks (was: Re: IAO… Bob Hinden
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks (was: Re: IAO… Toerless Eckert
- RE: Structure of IETF meeting weeks (was: Re: IAO… Tobias Gondrom
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Dave Crocker
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Ted Lemon
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Aaron Falk
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Dave Crocker
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks joel jaeggli
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Eliot Lear
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks joel jaeggli
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks Dave Crocker
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks (was: Re: IAO… Michael Richardson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael Richardson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Eliot Lear
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Laurent Ciavaglia
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Bob Hinden
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Randy Bush
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Eliot Lear
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … tom p.
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Paul Wouters
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Ross Finlayson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Stewart Bryant
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- RE: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Adrian Farrel
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Christian Huitema
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Sarah B
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … tom p.
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Nico Williams
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Andrew Newton
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Nico Williams
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Stephen Farrell
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Jared Mauch
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Andrew Newton
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Yoav Nir
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Carsten Bormann
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Eliot Lear
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Nico Williams
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Nico Williams
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Jared Mauch
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Melinda Shore
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … mike stJohns
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Andrew G. Malis
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Melinda Shore
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … james woodyatt
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … John Levine
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Jared Mauch
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Eliot Lear
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Carsten Bormann
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Christer Holmberg
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Dick Franks
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Carsten Bormann
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Stewart Bryant
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael Richardson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael Richardson
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … mike stJohns
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael StJohns
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Bob Hinden
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Michael StJohns
- RE: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Andrew Allen
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Benjamin Damm
- Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting … Nico Williams
- Re: [IAOC] IAOC requesting input on (potential) m… Leslie Daigle