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Re: Diversity and offensive terminology in RFCs

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 21 September 2018 13:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: Diversity and offensive terminology in RFCs
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
Cc: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>, ietf <ietf@ietf.org>
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From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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On 21.09.18 02:35, Ted Lemon wrote:
> This discussion was triggered by actual complaints by actual people,
> and the terms about which the complaints were made are used in IETF
> standards; this is why it's a matter of interest.

Although we don't actually have any specifics as to why or how the
terminology posed a problem.  We have no understanding of the harm in
this case.  In python one person chose to believe that another person
really had a problem, and that was that, end of discussion.

Eliot

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