Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 16 September 2019 03:17 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 20:16:39 -0700
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Subject: Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions
To: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 7:45 PM Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>;
wrote:

> On 9/15/19 6:28 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:45 PM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com
> > <mailto:john-ietf@jck.com>> wrote:
> >     However, we claim that the basis of what we do is "IETF
> >     consensus".  Today, someone who opts out of the IETF list
> >     essentially opts out of that consensus process no matter how
> >     active they might be in, e.g., particular WGs.
>
> > I'm not sure on what basis you make that claim, but I don't agree. The
> > discussion in the WG is part of the consensus proces.
>
> Yes, but we do distinguish between working group consensus and IETF
> consensus, and working group consensus is not sufficient to get a
> document published.
>

Yes, of course, but that doesn't mean that WG members need to separately
chime in on the IETF list in support or opposition of a document

-Ekr


> Melinda
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> Melinda Shore
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