Re: [IAOC] [79all] IETF Badge

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 12 November 2010 13:17 UTC

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To: Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
Subject: Re: [IAOC] [79all] IETF Badge
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The host requiring us to wear badges can be read as the host being asked
to ensure that individuals can be easily identified and thus held
accountable for what they say.  I'm not saying that's happened here.  I
accept Ray's explanation that the host noticed freeloaders and acted to
address that problem.

Eliot

On 11/12/10 6:59 AM, Eric Burger wrote:
> As far as I know, anyone with an email and a credit card can come to an IETF meeting.
>
> Anyone without an email and an ability to pay the registration fee cannot come physically to an IETF meeting, but can still participate over the Internet.
>
> It is an incredible stretch to say checking badges at an IETF is a free speech issue.


> On Nov 12, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/10 12:37 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
>>
>>> Is there is an unspoken concern in this discussion as to whether the
>>> host wanted to take names based on what people were saying, in the case
>>> they said something "objectionable"?
>> There might be many unspoken objections, e.g. that a certain kind of
>> host might want to keep random locals out of what could be perceived as
>> a free speech zone.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> -- 
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>> https://stpeter.im/
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