Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy
Scott O Bradner <sob@sobco.com> Sun, 22 July 2012 20:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy
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I did it once - it took 2 or 3 hours *it was quite a while back and I do not remember) there were no significant expenses - the depo was in Boston & my only expense was a few hours parking - the depo was done in the office of the law firm that was providing the IETF with pro-bono legal services at the time Scott On Jul 22, 2012, at 3:58 PM, John R Levine wrote: >>> For people with unique skills or knowledge, $800/hr is not unusual. >>> So long as the rate is published ahead of time, you're not going to >>> get much argument. ("Yes, we know it's high. But we've already told >>> you how to download stuff yourself for free.") >> >> Please note : out of pocket expenses (if someone has to travel to a >> hearing, say) would be reimbursed, but >> IETF volunteers will not be paid from these fees. > > If you know, how often have people been deposed on behalf of the > IETF, and how long does it typically take? > > My thought is that in a depo or trial, the other side pays both for the expenses and the time of the person being deposed, so it would be good idea to say up front here's what it'll cost if you want a live witness. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.
- Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy IETF Administrative Director
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Warren Kumari
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Richard L. Barnes
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Scott Brim
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Bradner, Scott
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Richard L. Barnes
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy John C Klensin
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Yoav Nir
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy John Levine
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Dave Crocker
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Bob Hinden
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Jiankang Yao
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Leif Johansson
- RE: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy John Levine
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy John R Levine
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy John R Levine
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy John R Levine
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy David Morris
- RE: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Richard Shockey
- RE: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Richard Shockey
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Scott O Bradner
- Re: [IAOC] Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Scott O Bradner
- Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy Samuel Weiler