Re: Weekly curated news stories about IETF-related topics

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 16 October 2020 00:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: Weekly curated news stories about IETF-related topics
To: Greg Wood <ghwood@ietf.org>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Hi Greg,

Who is fact-checking this?

For example, in the archive I see:

"The HTTP Range Requests standard has been under discussion at the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for more than half a decade,..."

There is no such thing as the HTTP Range Requests standard. There is a draft "draft-ietf-httpbis-semantics" that replaced an earlier draft "draft-ietf-httpbis-range". Maybe one day the current draft will proceed through WG Last Call, AD review, IETF Last Call, and an IESG ballot, and finally be approved as a Proposed Standard. Or maybe not.

We constantly have to push back on claims that drafts are IETF standards; it's a bit disturbing when such false claims appear in our own output.

A bit further on I see "互联网工程任务组IETF主席的Brian E.Carpenter教授发表了". No, I can't suddenly read and write Chinese; this was translated with my permission from https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~brian/InterOmnesNovasRete.html .

Apart from fact-checking, I think we need a prominent disclaimer on each edition that this is *not* information from the IETF and that is does *not* express the opinion of the IETF, ISOC, or anyone else in particular.

Regards
   Brian

On 16-Oct-20 04:04, Greg Wood wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> With the aim of better tracking where, when, and how IETF-related issues are presented in a variety of news outlets and other online publications, we have set up a weekly email to provide a collection of stories published around the world curated by David Goldstein. [1]
> 
> Based on positive reactions so far, we are inviting anyone from this list to sign up via:
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/newsclips
> 
> Archives are openly available and the preface to the first edition from the test period provides a bit more background about the approach:
> 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/newsclips/4py4Y7OPXvJ9MjesGAZEGs8Oe0o/
> 
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Feedback and suggestions are always welcome.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> -Greg
> 
> [1] https://goldsteinreport.com/about/
> 
> --
> 
> Greg Wood
> ghwood@ietf.org
> +1-703-625-3917
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