Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings
Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> Fri, 03 August 2012 22:10 UTC
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:10:09 -0700
From: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
To: Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings
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The narrowness of the corridoors, placement of food/drink and all that was discussed in our wrap-up meeting this morning, and indeed the issues you have raised were indentified as areas for improvement. Since we are coming back to THIS hotel, there are certainly things that can be done better, and will be done better, next time. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Fri, 3 Aug 2012, Mary Barnes wrote: > The issue that I experienced (and why I'm fussing) is that if you were > attending many sessions in the Regency rooms (and moving rooms between > sessions), it was extremely difficult to weave your way through the > corridor as many people were having their discussion directly in the middle > of the corridor. There just was not room in that corridor for side > conversations. The situation was made worse as that corridor was where > they served the refreshments. And trying to ask people politely to move > generally had no impact in my experience as people were too engaged in > their conversations. > > Mary. > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@lucidvision.com>wrote: > > > I agree with randy. I've never had an issue finding a place to huddle/meet > > when necessary at an ietf meeting venue. between the hallways, bar, etc I'm > > not sure what the fuss is all about. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: > > > > >>> i have no need to micro-manage the secretariat. > > >> seems to happen a lot around here... > > > > > > symptom of too much free time on hands > > > > > > randy > > > > > >
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- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Scott Brim
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Paul Hoffman
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Randy Bush
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mark Nottingham
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Glen Zorn
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Randy Bush
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Alexa Morris
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Ole Jacobsen
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
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