Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5841298C4 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7naeBgk9YXoC for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com (dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com [67.231.154.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A82A01298C2 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pure.maildistiller.com (unknown [10.110.50.25]) by dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com (Proofpoint Essentials ESMTP Server) with ESMTP id B447C80168 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 19:34:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Proofpoint Essentials engine Received: from mx1-us4.ppe-hosted.com (unknown [10.110.49.250]) by pure.maildistiller.com (Proofpoint Essentials ESMTP Server) with ESMTPS id A0E0180051 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 19:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xpasc.com (96-82-113-225-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.82.113.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1-us4.ppe-hosted.com (Proofpoint Essentials ESMTP Server) with ESMTPS id 8EB1880060 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 19:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from egate.xpasc.com (egate.xpasc.com [10.1.2.49]) by xpasc.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v21JY9Mv007544 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:09 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:09 -0800 (PST) From: David Morris To: IETF Subject: Re: Mailing list membership. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20170226124145.0b7b38c0@elandnews.com> <20f0d769-1937-3256-e37b-9583399c11d3@riseup.net> <20170227011852.GA5403@mx4.yitter.info> <5850e685-2f97-2bdb-87e2-0c11830e1d1c@riseup.net> <60cc8784-2815-32df-0cae-7adfffd0b549@riseup.net> <20170228051843.wkh5skthuyrs5pwz@thunk.org> <20170301044937.v3vhw3eqgqkxpoup@thunk.org> <947BCD81-7F9C-4C2E-ADDE-D68DD2BF513A@gmail.com> <70ebe3f4-bae5-7b65-a8ba-b90fdc38dbb8@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-MDID: 1488396853-Gbu9kU+Neyer Archived-At: X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:34:16 -0000 On Wed, 1 Mar 2017, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 1 Mar 2017, at 20:18, Michael StJohns wrote: > > > > eventually customize the confirm message based on provider > > Better: Send the subscription confirmation message with attributes that cause a DMARC-honoring provider to discard it :-) > (No programming required :-) No, that is worse as it insures support costs and more noise on this list.