Re: Interim meetings - changing the way we work

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 26 February 2015 23:13 UTC

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:13:52 +1300
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Interim meetings - changing the way we work
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On 27/02/2015 11:34, Lou Berger wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/26/2015 5:23 PM, Thomas D. Nadeau wrote:
>> Those subteams go off on their own for weeks at a time and iterate as needed. And they work without all of the overhead of a formal meeting. They may or may not discuss progress on the list until issues come up.
> 
> There's nothing wrong/out of process with this. The key process
> requirement is that they do review & discuss changes with the WG at some
> point (which sometimes *is* sometimes a challenge to ensure that it
> happens), and certainly no later than when the changes are published. 

And *any* decision taken that way, right down to the choice to use binary
arithmetic, may be challenged and changed by the WG as a whole, and for
that matter by the IETF as a whole when it gets to Last Call. And saying
"go listen to the MP3 file" is not an answer to a technical challenge.

Nobody is arguing against efficient discussion between active designers
and authors. That's been going on since before the IETF existed. Nobody
is arguing against using new technology for such discussions, or against
making them as inclusive as possible.

   Brian