Re: IPv10.

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 12 November 2016 21:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: IPv10.
To: "Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet]" <latif@ladid.lu>, "'Scott O. Bradner'" <sob@sobco.com>, 'IETF discussion list' <ietf@ietf.org>
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I believe it can all be safely ignored, but it does seem like a silly
waste of resources that they bother to work on it at all.

Regards
   Brian

On 13/11/2016 09:40, Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] wrote:
> The next one to look into is the new NGI initiative of the European
> Commission to start working on new Internet protocols, although this is just
> research, after the failure of the Future Internet research program and GENI
> in the US (though Openflow was funded at Stanford) so not really a threat
> but could be used to put some sanity in researchers in quest of inventing
> something new :-)
> 
> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/next-generation-internet-initi
> ative
> 
> https://twitter.com/NGI4eu
> 
> Latif
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Latif LADID
> [IPv6-based Internet]
> Sent: 12 November 2016 21:27
> To: 'Scott O. Bradner' <sob@sobco.com>; 'IETF discussion list'
> <ietf@ietf.org>
> Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: IPv10.
> 
> The IETF/3GPP endorsement agreement can be used to stop them as it clearly
> states that ETSI should not be involved in IETF work but just endorse it.
> 
> Latif
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott O. Bradner [mailto:sob@sobco.com]
> Sent: 12 November 2016 21:06
> To: IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
> Cc: Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] <latif@ladid.lu>; ipv6@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: IPv10.
> 
> but consistent?
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Brian E Carpenter
> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Latif,
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 20:17, Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] wrote:
>>> Jon Postel will swizel in his grave if v10 is not assigned by IANA first.
>>> Let's not confuse the market. A working group at ETSI has been formed
>>> 6 months ago called NGP ( Next Gereation Protocols) lashing at v4 and
>>> v6 to invent a new one.
>>
>> How incredibly foolish of them.
>>
>>   Brian
>>
>>> Also the ITU will jump on this one to occupy the v10 space :-)
>>>
>>> Latif
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E 
>>> Carpenter
>>> Sent: 12 November 2016 02:43
>>> To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
>>> Cc: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com>; ipv6@ietf.org; 
>>> ietf@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: IPv10.
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2016 14:15, Randy Bush wrote:
>>>>> Right now it seems that you have got a solution proposal for a 
>>>>> problem, that is IMHO not very clearly described.
>>>>
>>>> how about ipv4 and ipv6 are incompatible on the wire and this has 
>>>> created a multi-decade ipv6 charlie foxtrot?
>>>
>>> Yes, I suggest mentioning that to Vint, Bob and a few others in 1977, 
>>> so that they can design IPv4 with extensible addresses. People in
>>> 2016 will be grateful.
>>>
>>>   Brian
>>>
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