Re: Remote participation fees [Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom ELEGIBILITY]

Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Sat, 14 February 2015 21:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: Remote participation fees [Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom ELEGIBILITY]
From: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
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On Feb 14, 2015, at 4:16 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>; wrote:
> Of course,
> that also has disadvantages in terms of competent cross-area
> review.  Not simple.

I question whether there is a real opportunity for cross-area review at F2F meetings.   The schedules are jam-packed.   As an AD, there was never an opportunity to see what other areas were doing, and as an individual participant it's hard to know where to go, and there are often conflicts.