Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards]
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards]
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> On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:20 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote: > > What I care about is this: > > The IETF community (and those generating IRTF and independent submissions) need a way to signal to the community that draft means just that: it's draft work, and not intended for broad deployment. Otherwise, we end up with all of the support issues I mentioned earlier. > > Eliot > There’s no way to avoid that in any public message even it it is stated explicitly Lots of things get deployed even when they aren’t in such messages. I.e., that doesn’t seem avoidable. Joe
- I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Carsten Bormann
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] John Levine
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Scott Bradner
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Carsten Bormann
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Stephen Farrell
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Scott Bradner
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Joe Touch
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] John Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Watson Ladd
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Cloudflare/Argo error was Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry … Lloyd W
- Re: Cloudflare/Argo error was Re: [rfc-i] I-D exp… Robert Sparks
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Christian Huitema
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Bill Gage
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] John Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Bill Gage
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Joel Halpern
- Re: RE: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Stand… Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Nick Hilliard
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Joel Halpern
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Salz, Rich
- RE: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Michael Jones
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Christian Huitema
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Donald Eastlake
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Roman Danyliw
- RE: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Roman Danyliw
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] S Moonesamy