Re: 10 a.m.

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 11 July 2016 22:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: 10 a.m.
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On 7/11/2016 11:25 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Actually, we have won five hours of productive time that can be used by
> small groups to get work done together before going into the WG meetings.


cancel the morning meetings and you can get an added 2.5 hours of 
productivity.  this all suggests a relatively straightforward, logical 
progression for scheduling...

or we could step back and consider the IETF meeting in strategic and 
tactical terms and decide on basic allocations of time and basic 
purposes for them.  /then/ we could decide on such things as start and 
end times.

but debating an hour here or an evening there, as independent decisions, 
seems to be more fun.

d/

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   Dave Crocker
   Brandenburg InternetWorking
   bbiw.net