RE: Want to be on the IESG?
Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> Thu, 07 October 2021 19:00 UTC
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From: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: Want to be on the IESG?
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Christian, Keith has captured thee nuance of my comment. I really don't care where candidates come from, so long as they come to promote the common good of the Internet community and not their corporate interests. Ron Juniper Business Use Only -----Original Message----- From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:53 PM To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>; Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>; Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Want to be on the IESG? [External Email. Be cautious of content] On 10/7/21 1:56 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: > Ron, I am not sure that I agree with you or Stewart here. We are > discussing the lack of candidates for leadership positions. If I look > at the roster of the IAB and IESG, I find plenty of members working > for those large companies that develop Internet technologies, and that > tells me that we are not exactly suffering from lack of participation > from big companies. In fact, if we loaded committees with even more > participation of these big companies, the complaint would not be that > they "do not invest" -- most probably, we would hear the opposite > complaint, that they invest too much. The question is, are those Big Companies "investing" or are they "exploiting"? Or some of each? Even though I think that's the question, I suspect we can't really answer that question definitively here, or maybe anywhere. But I'd love to see more I* candidates who are NOT from Big Companies. IETF needs more diversity in its leadership. Keith
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