Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Sat, 15 April 2006 11:00 UTC

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> Total of 66 messages in the last 7 days through midnight,
> Thursday, April 13 EST.

Sometimes this weekly "alive" message isn't good enough, at the
moment I'm trying to debug an issue between GMaNe and the tools
list.  So far I only know that it's not between me and GMaNe,
and not on GMaNe itself.  As a mail2news gateway the latter is
not always obvious, but there are two test methods to check it:
direct NNTP to its "junk" group, and news2mail plus mail2news
via its "test" group.

The next critical hops are "megatron" and "odin" on the IETF
side.  Sometimes (three or four weekends in 2005) they don't
redistribute submitted mails immediately, and then submitted
mails won't show up in the corrresponding GMaNe "newsgroup"
like http://dir.gmane.org/ietf.tools (NNTP, RSS, HTTP, search).

This could be also an unannounced change in the status of the
list, e.g. the IMA list accepted GMaNe submissions for some
time, and later bounced claiming that they are "unsubscribed".

Plain nonsense, of course GMaNe is subscribed (otherwise the
group wouldn't get any articles), all GMaNe submissions have an
SPF PASS for the Return-Path, and even a PRA PASS for Sender =
Return-Path = GMaNe.  And GMaNe checks all 2822 From addresses
_per list_ (not globally) with a simple mail C/R system.

An additional mailman subscription is technically pointless, a
manually moderated bounce to a poster who had already posted on
the IMA list is odd.  I try to get IMA flagged as "non-public" on GMaNe,
in other words requiring a separate subscription.

What I miss are test lists to check the status of "megatron" -
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.general/20342> shows
that all was fine until Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:59:56 -0700.  Bye



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