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Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com Sat, 07 September 2013 14:14 UTC

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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:07:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA
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> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:

> > How about a BCP saying conforming implementations of a wide-variety of
> > security-area RFCs MUST be open-source?
> >
> > *ducks*
> >

> And the user MUST compile them themselves from the sources?

> Nobody runs open source, (unless its an interpreted language). They run the
> compiled version and there is no infrastructure to check up on the
> compilation.

And don't forget:

   http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html

				Ned

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