Re: WG Review: Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) (fwd)

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>>>>> "Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> writes:
    Harald> My take (which is obviously biased) is that the number of
    Harald> NAT devices 2 years from now is likely to be significantly
    Harald> larger than the number of NAT devices currently deployed.

  Yes, I agree.
  And multiple layers too. And at higher speed points in the network.

    Harald> And - here I am making a real leap of faith - if the IETF
    Harald> recommendations for NAT devices make manufacturers who
    Harald> listen to them create NAT devices that make their customers
    Harald> more happy, then many of these new NAT devices may be
    Harald> conformant to IETF recommendations.

  Do we really want customers of NAT devices to be happy?

    Harald> (Note - I sympathize with Pekka's touching faith in Teredo
    Harald> as the Big Solution.... I hope he's right. So the NAT
    Harald> recommendations may in that case boil down to a single
    Harald> sentence:

    Harald> "Don't break Teredo"

    Harald> If that's the case.... it's worth saying.)

  I don't think we need a working group to say this.
  I think that the IAB could write a document much easier that said
that.

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