Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus?

Kathleen Moriarty <> Thu, 13 February 2020 14:56 UTC

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I believe one of the other considerations for Mobile World Congress and the
companies pulling out, is that the forum is international.  If some large
region is not able to attend, what is the perception on the global aspect
of the work getting done?

Jordi, while we do participate as individuals, many have travel sponsored
by their employer and the employer can advise those sponsored as to what
they should do.

That said, my travel is mostly booked and I am planning to attend, but will
watch to see what happens with any IETF pandemic planning.

Best regards,

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:51 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=> wrote:

> And then will you cover the expenses (flights, hotels) of people that has
> booked it already, because I don't think the IETF has an insurance to cover
> for it.
> In the case of the Mobile Congress, they said the cost is over 450 million
> euros for the cancellation, plus claims that may come. It is a totally
> different level and it only make sense because big companies decided not to
> participate.
> But in the case of IETF we are individuals, not companies and the size of
> the meeting, and consequently the risks are totally different. Clearly the
> Canada government will not allow anyone with risk of infecting others to
> come into the country, so the IETF is already covered by that.
> There is no such reason to cancel it. It will be only needed if our
> meeting is in China.
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
> El 13/2/20 15:35, "ietf en nombre de Alexandre Petrescu" <
> en nombre de> escribió:
>     I think it should be cancelled.
>     It is not a good perspective to cancel something that is dear, but
> under
>     exceptional circumstances there might be need of exceptional measures.
>     Alex
>     Le 13/02/2020 à 07:48, Andrew Alston a écrit :
>     > Hi All,
>     >
>     > I am just wondering if there are any thoughts on the status of the
> IETF 107 meeting in light of the corona virus.
>     >
>     > Particularly in light of the fact that for safety reasons mobile
> world congress has been cancelled and we're seeing other events being
> cancelled in light of this as well.  Should it be considered a safe and
> responsible move to go ahead with this meeting or should we be looking at
> an entirely virtual meeting in light of the situation?
>     >
>     > Andrew
>     >
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Best regards,