Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom ELEGIBILITY

t.p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> Thu, 15 January 2015 10:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom ELEGIBILITY
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nico Williams" <nico@cryptonector.com>;
To: "Michael StJohns" <mstjohns@comcast.net>;
Cc: "Michael Richardson" <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>;; "ietf" <ietf@ietf.org>;
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:47 PM
> In what way does scribing help someone be an appropriate choice to be
> on the NOMCOM?

Nico

I have scribed for other organisations and doing it well means being
transparent to what everyone else is saying, that is, you set yourself
aside and really concentrate on and listen to others.  In doing so, you
pick up everyone else's point of view and learn a lot too about the
organisation and how that part of it works.

By contrast, a participant has their own agenda which will always get in
the way of hearing others properly. (Chairmen should never write I-Ds:-)

So scribing is difficult, requires self-discipline but can teach a lot.

I do not however see it as particularly relevant to NonCom except in so
far as the person is present and engaged.

Tom Petch

> In my experience scribing makes it really difficult to participate in
> any other way (e.g., in a discussion) for the duration of the scribing
> duties.  Not exactly something that adds value to the scriber.
>
> Anyone who can type fast and who can hear well can scribe, but this
> says nothing about their knowledge of process, people, issues...  How
> much one has scribed seems like a useless metric to me.
>
> Nico
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