Re: Montevideo statement

[Dave Crocker <[e-mail]>]

On 10/11/2013 7:31 AM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> Dave:
>
> On IANA:
>
>> Further, I believe there is no IETF context
>
> RFC 6020 and http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2011/07/IANA-IAB-FNOI-2011.pdf


Jari,

The fact that you had to reach back 2.5 years, to a frankly rather 
obscure document that came from the IAB and not the broader IETF, 
demonstrates my point that we lacked meaningful context and, in 
particular, you lacked mandate for speaking about this on behalf of the 
IETF.


And lest the end of the above sentence be taken as too stern or 
critical, I'll point out that I think we, the IETF, have been marching 
down a path of causing our 'leaders' to feel empowered in this way -- we 
have actually been moving towards kings and voting -- and hence, again, 
this is not a criticism of you or Russ personally.  If anyone feels 
compelled to apply the word criticism here, they need to apply it to all 
of us, the IETF community.

d/


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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