Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers

kent@songbird.com Fri, 04 July 2008 06:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers
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I think I could have been clearer with my message.  It wasn't intended as
either a criticism of the ietf list management (in fact, I use precisely the
same anti-spam technique) or a request for help with configuration of my
mailservers (I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but usually I can
figure these things out on my own).

Instead, I was presenting what I thought was an interesting example of a 
subtle problem that can come up in ipv6 deployment.  

The mailserver in question uses a default redhat enterprise build (actually
centos).  ipv6 is either enabled by default, or just has a single check box,
with no further information.  The fact that ipv6 is enabled so trivially
carries the implication that just enabling ipv6 won't actually damage
anything. 

Now I know different.  Just enabling ipv6 on an otherwise correctly
configured and functioning ipv4 box *will* cause damage -- it will cause mail
that would have been delivered to not be delivered.  I could be wrong, but
this strikes me as a trap that lots of people could fall into. 

As I mentioned, my servers actually do reject mail if they can't find a 
reverse dns for the senders IP.  Some of those servers use ipv6; in light of all 
this I'm going to have to rethink that decision.  For a server, the 
combination of enabling ipv6 and using this particular anti-spam technique 
may drastically increase the number of false positives -- especially as ipv6 
gets more widely deployed.

Best Regards
Kent

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