RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Project Management
linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk> Tue, 11 November 2008 09:09 UTC
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From: linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Project Management
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Further to what I wrote yesterday, "the 2 IDN algorithms: ToASCII and ToUnicode perhaps would need tweaks hence ToASCII2 and ToUnicode2 with perhaps ASCII registrations needing also an ACE sort prefix, say yn-- similar to xn-- that are put for IDN. This development could then allow MDN (Multilingual Domain Names) that would help the users that are multilingual / would like multilingual text at domain name platform." You can have for MDN another ACE sort prefix, say zn-- to distinguish them from IDN and ASCII registrations. Regards Meeku --- On Mon, 10/11/08, linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > From: linuxa linux <linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Project Management > To: ietf@ietf.org, unicode@unicode.org > Cc: "Ruszlan Gaszanov" <ruszlan@ather.net> > Date: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 11:15 PM > --- On Sun, 9/11/08, Ruszlan Gaszanov > <ruszlan@ather.net> wrote: > > > From: Ruszlan Gaszanov <ruszlan@ather.net> > > Subject: RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via > Y2K Project Management > > To: linuxalinux@yahoo.co.uk, ietf@ietf.org > > Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 10:21 PM > > > > ......ASCII domain names *are* in fact > > punycode domain names > > by definition. > > That's the problem and the reason for Punycode2 > allowing ASCII registrations to be Punycoded via Punicode2. > > > As soon as you want to encode ASCII characters with > > something else, you'll > > need a new parallel DNS infrastructure and at this > point a > > new version of > > DNS protocol that works....... > > You got this wrong because when you Punycode via Punycode2 > ASCII registrations you will have ASCII letters however they > will be in machine code, same as IDN thus equal virtue and > for ASCII registrations to be viewed they will be viewed > similarly as IDN (Internationalized Domain Names / > Internationalised Domain Names) and here also equal virtue. > > > > .......But the bottom line is that there is no > > way to develop a > > "new punycode" encoding ASCII domain names > with > > something else then ASCII > > and implement that on existing DNS infrastructure > without > > completely > > breaking the Internet, period. > > Again you are putting something which I have not said for > Punycode2. While you wait for learning curve developments, > I suggest you use ASCII based letters for Punycode 2 however > you machine code the ASCII registrations like you are doing > with IDN. > > I am not a technical expert, however based on what I have > gleaned can I suggest the 2 IDN algorithms: ToASCII and > ToUnicode perhaps would need tweaks hence ToASCII2 and > ToUnicode2 with perhaps ASCII registrations needing also an > ACE sort prefix, say yn-- similar to xn-- that are put for > IDN. This development could then allow MDN (Multilingual > Domain Names) that would help the users that are > multilingual / would like multilingual text at domain name > platform. > > I hope this signals to you the urgency that is required for > implementing. > > > > Regards > > > Meeku _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Project M… linuxa linux
- RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Proje… Ruszlan Gaszanov
- RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Proje… Ruszlan Gaszanov
- RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Proje… linuxa linux
- RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Proje… linuxa linux
- RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Proje… Ruszlan Gaszanov
- RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Proje… linuxa linux
- RE: Punycode at ASCII for IDN & MDN via Y2K Proje… linuxa linux