Re: DMARC methods in mailman (off-topic)

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Thu, 22 December 2016 16:14 UTC

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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:09:48 -0800
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: DMARC methods in mailman (off-topic)
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Hi Ted,
At 07:12 21-12-2016, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>Given that the DMARC "specifcation" isn't even being treated as a
>standard that must be obeyed in all of its particulars by its
>proponents --- the fact that this is being used by its propoonents to
>twist mailers of the IETF --- a standards body --- into knots because
>it is enforcement is random and *not* standardized is, quite frankly,
>amazing to me.

According to a blog article written by Mr Woodcraft, Senior Technical 
Adviser, Government Digital Service, DMARC is "almost an internet 
standard listed as 'Informational' at the The Internet Engineering 
Task Force (IETF), although it's already widely used particularly by 
the larger, consumer-facing email providers".  There was an 
announcement from the Paypal Product and Ecosystem Security Team in 
which there is the following: "the Internet Engineering Task Force 
(IETF) published RFC 7489 for Domain-based Message Authentication 
Reporting and Conformance (DMARC)".  According to the RFC Editor the 
specification was published in the Independent Stream [1], i.e. the 
specification was not been published by the IETF.

The current discussion, as the previous ones, is about whether there 
is a problem affecting IETF mailing list subscribers, and if so, what 
to do about it.  Is that similar to the one discussed in the thread 
at https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/10/24/794 ?

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/