Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Tue, 20 October 2020 21:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.
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On 10/20/2020 1:52 PM, Jay Daley wrote:
>> On 21/10/2020, at 9:37 AM, Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jay,
>>
>>> As stated in BCP 79
>>> "The authors retain all other rights, but cannot withdraw the above
>>> rights from the IETF Trust and the IETF."
>> That was in BCP 78.  And section 4 makes that argument moot for Khaled, don't you agree? 
> No I don’t.  The I-Ds in question are very clearly "Contributions made as part of the IETF Processes" and so section 4 does not apply. 


And that's an important principle. The archive is the archive. Once
something has been written and published, it cannot be unwritten and
unpublished.

The simplest path for Khaled is to update each of his drafts, replacing
the content with a short text that says something like "This
contribution has been withdrawn." That way, everyone who searches for
the draft will be shown the latest version and learn its status. We call
such drafts "tombstones", but that's jargon.

-- Christian Huitema