Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request)
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Wed, 11 March 2020 02:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request)
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
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On 10/3/20 14:55, Warren Kumari wrote: [...] > > I realize that +1 is largely content free, but I believe that appeals > and recalls are an incredibly important part of the IETF process - > they are the reason that we can have a process which uses rough > consensus (not voting), and where our process has the flexibility to > (as Spencer would say) "Do the right thing!", and not blindly follow > checklists. In order for these to work, people need to be able, and > comfortable invoking appeals and recalls[0]... Agreed. In that light, may I ask that question #10 of https://www.ietf.org/chairs/document-writeups/document-writeup-working-group-documents/ be rephrased to something else? At least for non-native English speakers, the phrase "Has anyone threatened an appeal" gives Appeals a very negative connotation... (Is a formal update to RFC4858 needed for that?) Thanks! Cheers, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
- Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Andrew Alston
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Fwd: Resignation request Fernando Gont
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Nick Hilliard
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Melchior Aelmans
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Ted Hardie
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Resignation request Andrew Alston
- Re: Resignation request Keith Moore
- Re: Resignation request Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Resignation request Stewart Bryant
- Re: Resignation request Loa Andersson
- Timeout Request: Was: Resignation request Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Resignation request Alex Bogdanov
- Fw: FW: [spring] Resignation request licong@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: Resignation request Nico Williams
- Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Warren Kumari
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Paul Wouters
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Andrew Alston
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Fernando Gont
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) S Moonesamy
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Paul Wouters
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) S Moonesamy
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Eric Rescorla
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Larry Masinter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Eric Rescorla
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Larry Masinter