Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Mon, 30 November 2020 17:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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Am 30.11.2020 um 16:58 schrieb ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com:
>> Am 30.11.2020 um 16:18 schrieb ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com:
>> > ...
>> > The failure mode is that browser behavior is in a constant state of
>> flux. Some
>> > time ago you got HTML-ized text, yesterday you got text without the
>> form feeds,
>> > today you get the text file verbatim. Who knows what you'll get
>> tomorrow?
>> > ...
>
>> Is it really in "constant flux"? Pointers appreciated.
>
>> > ...
>
> You just heard from two people on this list - Keith and Tom - that
> things have
> changed over time. If you don't believe them, say so in so many words.

 From Tom I'm still waiting for a concrete reply. And what Keith says
hints at that this has not been working at one point in the past.

That does *not* mean it's in a constant flux".

> But let's assume for a moment that there haven't been any changes. Let me
> rephase my question: Would you implement something that depened on browser
> file save behavior remaining unchanged long term?

Honestly, right now I see no reason not to. In particular as there's
always curl as a fallback should there ever be a problem.

Best regards, Julian