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Re: DMARC methods in mailman --- [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions (fwd) Jo-Philipp Wich: [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Sat, 17 December 2016 15:56 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: DMARC methods in mailman --- [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions (fwd) Jo-Philipp Wich: [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:56:17 -0500
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To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
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On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:15 AM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
>>        First Last Name Via LISTNAME <listaddress@example.com <mailto:listaddress@example.com>>
>> 
>> since this will hijack "First Last" to point to the list, which is going to
>> cause all manner of email leaks.  Maybe we can do better there.
> 
> The above format is already being used by at least one non-IETF mailing list.

Yes.   And changing it to the mailing list also has problems in terms of readability.   How about:

	For First Last via Listname <listaddress@example.com <mailto:listaddress@example.com>>

This is brief, avoids the autocomplete fail, and gets the job done.

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