Re: Scope for self-destructing email?
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 17 August 2017 12:25 UTC
Return-Path: <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9404C1323BE for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:25:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JsFB89ZKZVch for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 998B113213D for <ietf@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAA0E1FF; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:28:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE78806D2; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:25:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: "ietf@ietf.org Discussion" <ietf@ietf.org>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
cc: vaibhav singh <vaibhavsinghacads@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Scope for self-destructing email?
In-Reply-To: <CA+9kkMAAQh64M59g0Jn=2j0czS6q56-yoOadGMoeVMTZ=4Z72Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZ1GipivEf31iHchaM1OPFQF4QkfVRGVNsY_vVx=J8oFZ0JZA@mail.gmail.com> <b1289123-04ac-e62b-879e-614fae9b20b0@bogus.com> <CACZ1GiooBdEZ_YcBZPQNFkbT0DsGf-Cu25fPYzWcLamLUAH+TA@mail.gmail.com> <CA+9kkMAAQh64M59g0Jn=2j0czS6q56-yoOadGMoeVMTZ=4Z72Q@mail.gmail.com>
X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1
X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m<nPbLgmtKK-5dC@#:k
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:25:32 -0400
Message-ID: <7877.1502972732@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/l4jtoic51_t1JImvIH-etCtoW5o>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:25:36 -0000
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > The first is providing a facility that declares a particular message to be > automatically overcome by events at a particular time, leaving it completely > up to the recipient how to process the message based on that metadata. There > are simple message types (today's weather, lunch availability, etc.) that > could be thus set to be marked OBE when no longer relevant. Some > clients This is an interesting idea. For those of us who deal with many emails, (particularly upon return from vacation), not having to deal with lunch plans that have expired would in fact be nice. Some of us still deal with cron job output. An hourly job that fails all weekend generates a lot of email, and often only the most recent failure is at all useful to know about. That's a job for good-old-Usenet Supercedes:, but that's one email overcoming another, and the whole thing needs some cryptographic support. Note that a merkle hash (a la s/key) would probably suffice. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
- Scope for self-destructing email? vaibhav singh
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Matthias Merkel
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Dave Cridland
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Matthias Merkel
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Matthew Pounsett
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Warren Kumari
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Matthias Merkel
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Randy Presuhn
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Martin Rex
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John C Klensin
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John Levine
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? joel jaeggli
- RE: Scope for self-destructing email? Michel Py
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John Levine
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Theodore V Faber
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? vaibhav singh
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Ted Hardie
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Matthias Merkel
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John C Klensin
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Matthias Merkel
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John C Klensin
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Warren Kumari
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Ted Hardie
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Christian Huitema
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Gary E. Miller
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Michael Richardson
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John C Klensin
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John Levine
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? ned+ietf
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Adam Roach
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? John R Levine
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Toerless Eckert
- Re: Scope for self-destructing email? Lloyd Wood
- Email client APIs. features. amd siupport (was: R… John C Klensin
- Re: Email client APIs. features. amd siupport (wa… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Email client APIs. features. amd siupport (wa… Phillip Hallam-Baker