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Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Robert Moskowitz <rgm-ietf@htt-consult.com> Tue, 17 November 2020 22:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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On 11/17/20 4:32 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
> On 11/17/2020 1:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> RSYNC is a great tool for maintaining a local document store. Running 
>> RSYNC over TLS is a bit of a challenge.  Will you provide this service?
>
>
> It's not an exact analog, but if  you want an authenticated channel, 
> the following provides the same basic functionality:
>
> wget -nv -r -N -l0 -np -nH --cut-dirs=1 -A txt,pdf 
> https://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/rfc/
>
> It could be tuned up a bit by asking the tools team to turn 
> "Last-Modified"/"If-Modified-Since" header handling on for 
> https://www.ietf.org/ (which would make the command above act 
> substantially more like rsync).

This is very similar to what I use when I am physically at an IEEE 802 
meeting and Rick has a server I can hit with wget.

The command works similiarly but is not efficient.  And for the shear 
size of the ID directory not a wise approach over rsync.

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