Subscriber List Damage

Glen <> Sun, 29 June 2008 05:02 UTC

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All -

I was asked by the IAOC to post a message to the IETF and SIP lists, to 
ensure that people were aware that the subscriber lists for the IETF and 
SIP lists were damaged as a result of an anomaly in TMDA and Mailman 
that occurred Thursday night.

Basically, TMDA misbehaved, and, in the process, caused Mailman to 
encounter a transient failure in the reading of its databases for these 
two lists.  As a result, rather than simply holding the mail and 
retrying it, Mailman decided to discard the current list databases and 
re-create them from 3-year-old data, for both the IETF and the SIP lists.


No email was lost to the system or the archives; however, some people 
may have missed some messages, or may still not be resubscribed to the list.

Of course we restored the files from backups; however, we want to make 
sure that everyone gets the mail they missed, and that everyone is 
subscribed to these lists who wishes to be subscribed.


If you're reading this message in your email box, you're subscribed to 
the list identified in the subject line, and all should be okay.

If you're reading this message in the archives, wondering why you're not 
getting list mail, please take a moment to resubscribe yourself to the 
list, which should resolve your problem.

And regardless, if you feel you missed any mail, we do have the archives 
available for your reference.

IETF List Subscription Link:
IETF List Archive Link:

SIP List Subscription Link:
SIP List Archive Link:

We are in the home stretch of getting TMDA removed and replaced on the 
servers, and I apologize for any inconvenience caused by this issue. 
Because server problems apparently happen only in the dead of night, you 
can be sure that we feel any and all pain anyone may be experiencing.

If you need any assistance, please contact the IETF Secretariat, using 
the links at:

Thank you,
Glen Barney
IT Director
AMS (IETF Secretariat)
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