Re: China

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Fri, 08 April 2016 18:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: China
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On 4/8/16 10:24 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016, Melinda Shore wrote:
>> Might be a lot more informative to talk to glbt travel specialists.
>> Why that may not have crossed the mind of the IAOC that this may be a
>> useful thing to do is left as an exercise, &c.

> Point taken and I am sure that is one of the many lessons we have
> learned from this process.

Also, I think it's almost certainly the case that any large company
has someone in their travel office who's looked at this issue (and
related ones), and that it might be worth trying to engage one of those
folks first.

Melinda