Re: registries and designated experts
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sun, 17 June 2012 13:33 UTC
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Martin, On 06/17/2012 01:55 PM, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: > This time, the situation was somewhat reversed: The expert approved the > registration, and this fact was then used as a claim that IETF Last Call > comments on the item registered were no longer appropriate. I'm sorry, but that's just not accurate. The specific comment (of yours) was to the effect that two registrations should become one. I believe its fair to say that that is something one could have expected to be raised on the uri-review list, given the comments typically sent to that list, and the comments we got there on our I-D, and so I brought that up when you (who often comment on that list), only raised this during IETF LC. At no point did I claim that IETF LC comments were no longer appropriate, and indeed I've been responding al all IETF LC comments on their merits, including this one of yours. But, yes, I do think that your specific issue (essentially, not doing one of the registrations) would have been better raised earlier on uri-review, and as the one asking for the registrations it does feel like having to jump through the same bureaucratic hoops a second time. However, perhaps there is a generic issue in that its not clear whether one is doing paperwork or getting substantive technical review when one requests a registration, at least to the uri-review list. I'm not sure how many other *-review lists might have the same situation. That could be clarified I guess. If that list is just to check the paperwork, then I'd guess that pretty much all technical comment ought be re-directed elsewhere. If that list is for substantive technical review, then seeing frequent contributors to that list first bringing up issues at IETF LC would seem noteworthy. (I'm not saying such issues ought be ignored, but they maybe ought be treated as we would the case of a WG participant making comments on a topic only after WGLC.) S
- APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07 Martin J. Dürst
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07 Stephen Farrell
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07 … Martin J. Dürst
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07 … Stephen Farrell
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07,… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07,… Stephen Farrell
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07,… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07,… Stephen Farrell
- registries and designated experts (was: Re: APPSD… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: registries and designated experts Dave Crocker
- Re: registries and designated experts (was: Re: A… Barry Leiba
- Re: registries and designated experts (was: Re: A… SM
- Re: registries and designated experts Brian E Carpenter
- Re: registries and designated experts John C Klensin
- Re: registries and designated experts SM
- Re: registries and designated experts Randy Bush
- Re: registries and designated experts John C Klensin
- Re: registries and designated experts (was: Re: A… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: registries and designated experts Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: registries and designated experts Randy Bush
- Re: registries and designated experts Brian E Carpenter
- RE: registries and designated experts Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: registries and designated experts Thomas Narten
- Re: registries and designated experts ned+ietf
- Re: registries and designated experts John C Klensin
- Re: registries and designated experts Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: registries and designated experts Dave Crocker
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07,… Stephen Farrell
- Re: registries and designated experts Martin J. Dürst
- Re: registries and designated experts Stephen Farrell
- Re: registries and designated experts Martin J. Dürst
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07,… Graham Klyne
- Re: registries and designated experts Graham Klyne
- Re: APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07,… Graham Klyne