Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and 111
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 08 January 2016 17:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and 111
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I'd like to add one additional comment as an IAOC member (but not speaking for the IAOC). I think we, the IAOC and meetings committee, can and should do better on transparency of meeting requirements, selection process, and contracts. I'm hoping to see some progress on this before/by BA. Lou On 01/08/2016 10:39 AM, Leslie Daigle wrote: > > The other question that has been on my mind is whether or how we > continue to meet as a community. In my personal opinion, one of the > most important things about the IETF *is* the community and having the > opportunity to engage one on one. I go to IETF meetings for hallway > conversations as much as anything else. But — in the span of the next > 10 years, it’s not clear to me if we can or should find non-meeting ways > to achieve those effects, and get our work done. > > Absent discussion within and direction from the community on where it > thinks we’re headed on that front, I (as an IAOC member) was not > comfortable with agreeing to hotel commitments 8+ years out. It is my > understanding that we, in fact, have the ability to cancel the contract > for IETF 111 with a survivable penalty a few years out. I.e., it’s a > good deal for current course and speed, and if that changes > significantly before we get to the 3 year window, we have the ability to > reorganize. > > I realize that doesn’t address all of the issues you raised, but > hopefully it helps at the broad-brushstroke level. > > Leslie. > >
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Lou Berger
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Mary Barnes
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Michael Richardson
- Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and 111 IETF Administrative Director
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … John C Klensin
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Ray Pelletier
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … John C Klensin
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Ole Jacobsen
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … John C Klensin
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Leif Johansson
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Scott Bradner
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Leslie Daigle
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Nadeau Thomas
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Michael StJohns
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Jari Arkko
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Leif Johansson
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … thomas nadeau
- Virtual BOFs (was: Re: Venue Announcement for IET… John C Klensin
- Re: Virtual BOFs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Virtual BOFs Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Virtual BOFs John C Klensin
- Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and … Doug Barton
- Re: Virtual BOFs Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Virtual BOFs John C Klensin