Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors

[Warren Kumari <[e-mail]>]

On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Michael Richardson <[e-mail]> wrote:

> 
> I did not know about ORCID before this thread.
> I think it is brilliant, and what I've read about the mandate of
> orcid.org, and how it is managed, I am enthusiastic.
> 
> I agree with what Joel wrote:
> 
> Asking for ORCID support in the tool set and asking for IETF endorsement
> are two very different things.
> 

I must admit that I'm still somewhat confused by what exact problem we are trying to solve here.

Things that I write in an IETF context are fundamentally different to things that I write on other contexts, so I don't really see a need for a *global* identifier (If folk think that I wrote a particularly funny anecdote about fish they are not likely to be looking for drafts that I have co-authored. Anyway, what I author in the IEFT context should reflect WG consensus, so who the actual author is is somewhat irrelevant).

So, all I really need is to disambiguate myself in the IETF context.
This seems simple -- when I arrived here, no-one mistook me for some other Warren Kumari, so I have stuck with that identifier.
If there was already a Warren Kumari participating I would simply have used my middle name (embarrassingly enough, "Kim") and been Warren Kim Kumari.
Had there already been a Warren Kim Kumari, I could refer to myself as Warren "Monkey" Kumari, Warren "Ace" Kumari, Warren "Dumbass" Kumari, etc. 

If there were multiple Warren Kumari's participating folk are more likely to remember me as "Dumbass Warren" than "that Warren guy with the ORCID 0000-0002-2404-6244".

If the purpose it to try prevent folk intentionally passing themselves off as someone else, well, putting in an ORCID doesn't really accomplish that either.

I guess I see no harm in this, I just don't really get the point. 

W



> Having tool support for it is a necessary first step to permitting IETF
> contributors to gain experience with it.   We need that experience before we
> can talk about consensus.
> 
> So, permit ORCID, but not enforce.
> An interesting second (or third) conversation might be about how I could
> insert ORCIDs into the meta-data for already published documents.
> 
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