Re: no no derivatives, was legal consultation (was List moderator action)

[John Levine <[e-mail]>]

It appears that Salz, Rich <[e-mail]> said:
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>Therefore, IMHO it would be perfectly reasonable to disallow "no
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>derivative rights" for all IETF stream contributions.
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>That’s a really bad idea.  For example, I could post a draft with no-derivative as a trial balloon to see if the IETF is interested, say as a DISPATCH presentation. If not,
>then I am free to take it to other places or to seek a patent.

Twenty years ago I would have agreed with you. These days, it would take about
10 seconds to stick a draft or draft-like thing on a server somewhere else and
send a note to an IETF list saying take a look at my document at https://blah
and tell us if you're interested.

Considering the length of this thread, I think the simplification would be worth it.
I realize there is a process nit about how you might ask to DISPATCH somehthing if
there isn't an I-D but I think we can deal with it.

By my count there have been 21 RFCs published with "no derivatives" lanaguage,
the most recent RFC8216 in 2017. The last in the IETF stream was RFC7016 in
2013, over a decade ago.

R's,
John