Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Sat, 14 September 2019 01:29 UTC

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>>> Thanks for the quick and careful reply.  After reading your note, I
>>> think everything was done correctly and with the right timing up to
>>> the point that Adrian indicated he was willing to continue.  After
>>> that, it would have been a reasonable option to ask him if he was
>>> willing to extend for some months as necessary to let other things
>>> settle down before you launched the feedback period.
>>
>> when one dos not acknowledge that there are serious underlying
>> problems, it is easiest to deflect and claim paper rituals [0].
>>
>> [0] - for an amazing, ans thankfully unrelated, exercise of this form
>>       of denial, see mit and harvard dealing with the epstein issue.
> 
> Had the Media Lab followed MIT's policies, it would have regarded
> Epstein as disqualified [1] and not dealt with him, thus saving them
> the current trouble.  If anything, the Media Lab example calls for
> less disregard for rules that are designed to keep institutions on
> track.

those rules are for when common sense and ethics have failed.  as i
said, when one dos not acknowledge that there are serious underlying
problems, it is easiest to deflect etc.  or subvert the guidelines and
play weasel with the paperwork.

randy