Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020
Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> Thu, 18 June 2020 02:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 14:25:49 +1200
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> On 5/05/2020, at 8:49 AM, Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> wrote: > > Absolutely part of this is ignoring data. But part of it is also a "tactics" vs. "strategy" problem. Every time someone makes this kind of specific proposal, what they are failing to do is lay out a high-level "value" proposition: How does doing this thing you propose meet one of our strategic goals? If it is truly a "good idea", then it should be easy to articulate what strategic goal it achieves. Of course developing strategic goals means looking at the data and agreeing to what needs fixing, but looking at data is the means, not the ends. The ends are to come up with a set of values (aka strategic goals), so that the discussion centers around whether or not a particular proposal is meeting that goal or not. Make it clear that looking at the data is meant to result in an articulable list of values/goals. I added issue #7 a while ago to capture this but missed addressing it until now. Now addressed with a new transformation as shown in this commit: https://github.com/ietf-llc/strategy-2020-consultation/commit/bfea93f92aec5903427fb06fac265305fcd47f3b <https://github.com/ietf-llc/strategy-2020-consultation/commit/bfea93f92aec5903427fb06fac265305fcd47f3b> Jay -- Jay Daley IETF Executive Director jay@ietf.org
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Keith Moore
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Str… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Str… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Eric Rescorla
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Salz, Rich
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… S Moonesamy
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Ted Hardie
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Pete Resnick
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… S Moonesamy
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Martin Thomson
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Consultation on IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan… Jay Daley