Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Wed, 09 July 2008 04:33 UTC

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From: Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>
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Subject: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?
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Mark Andrews wrote:
>>>> It's nonsensical for an application to decide that relative names are 
>>>> unacceptable, but to require users to input names as relative.
>>> it's nonsensical for you to unilaterally declare that such names are 
>>> relative, when well over two decades of practice indicates otherwise.
 >>
>> I didn't declare it; 1034 did. 
> 
> 	And RFC 1535 got resolvers to try search lists last if there
> 	was a period in the name.   This removed the need for final
> 	periods for any legal fully qualified host name.

First, 1535 is informational, so it doesn't get anyone to do anything 
per se. The SHOULD therein is nonbinding.

Second, that document is very clear about applying to relative names, 
not FQDNs.

Finally, "." is a legal FQDN. So is "a.". The lack of an internal "." 
means that the "more stringent mechanism..implemented in BIND 4.9.2" 
discussed in 1535 does not apply.

I.e., 1535 describes an implementation decision to assume that:\
	<has internal "."> implies <is a FQDN>

The converse does not follow, i.e.:
	<is a FQDN> does NOT imply <has an internal ".">

> 	"hk" is not a legal fully qualified host name.

Agreed. "hk.", however, is.

 >       Demanding that
> 	applications support final dots to support uses that are outside
> 	of the original design scope is nonsensical.

What uses? Specifying that the trailing "." means FQDN is defined in the 
DNS spec (1034). Apps that interpret names as DNS names need to follow 
that spec. Period (pun intended).

Joe

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