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Re: Internet 2020 Goals

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Wed, 28 May 2014 16:54 UTC

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On 5/28/2014 1:05 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On Tue 27/May/2014 20:00:58 +0200 Joe Touch wrote:
>> On 5/26/2014 7:15 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> At one time, NSF and the National Academy of Sciences used to publish
>>> "research agendas" for networking - when did this stop?
>>
>> It didn't, and all such reports (including 2020 visions) have had the
>> same amount of impact (lots of heat, but no light IMO).
>>
>> Unless the IETF is prepared to put up research money to back it up*,
>> making statements about the future of the Internet is unproductive
>> prognostication.
>
> Yet they spend some bucks on it:

The *IETF* has not.

> Moving towards a more robust, secure and agile Internet
> NSF announces $15 million in awards to develop, deploy and test future Internet architectures
> http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=131248&org=CISE&from=news

The NSF and DARPA absolutely have.

DARPA has been two-faced about it, though - on the one hand, repeatedly 
celebrating the Internet as it's "poster" success story, on the other 
hand undermining the entire concept of shepherding nascent ideas for the 
20+ years it took for the Internet to gain traction. Shame on anyone 
from our community who attended one of these celebrations since Tether's 
tenure there, IMO.

Joe

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