Re: IETF and open source license compatibility
"Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu> Fri, 13 February 2009 03:47 UTC
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:47:24 -0500
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
To: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
Subject: Re: IETF and open source license compatibility
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:38:44 +0100 Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> wrote: > The discussion started by Stephan suggesting that free software > authors publish their work as free standards in the IETF. My point > was that since the IETF disallow publishing standards under a license > that is compatible with free software licensing (e.g., allows > modification), it is not possible for free software authors to do > this. Thus, to me, this discussion is not related to comments in > source code at all. My understanding of IETF policy is that the IETF will publish I-Ds that are in the public domain. Nothing is freer than that. You're perfectly free to put your text in the public domain before submitting it for publication as an RFC. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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