Re: IETF LLC & IETF Participation from USA-sanctioned countries

[Keith Moore <[e-mail]>]

On 3/7/21 2:14 PM, Christian Huitema wrote:

>>
>> No, we need to know, even if we won't like the answer, and even if we 
>> can't change the situation.    Far too much prejudice is perpetuated 
>> by those kinds of taboos.
>
> This is not exactly an issue of prejudice. AFAIK, we do not have 
> checks to verify that some new subscriber to an IETF working group is 
> not accessing the server from a penalized country through a VPN, or 
> any such workaround. We don't really want to set up any check like 
> that, because they are intrusive and complicated, and also because 
> they are beyond commonly held standards. Yet, if we conducted an in 
> depth study of the issue, who knows whether some bureaucrat somewhere 
> would force the IETF to enforce such checks, or force the LLC to spend 
> a good chunk of money asserting our rights to not do that. It is 
> probably much wiser to let sleeping dogs lie.
>
Any time someone says we shouldn't ask whether we're effectively 
discriminating against people in some way, that's a huge red flag.

Keith