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Re: Please share your views in our first annual IETF community survey

tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com> Fri, 07 May 2021 08:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: Please share your views in our first annual IETF community survey
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On 07/05/2021 01:18, IETF Executive Director wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am writing to you from the IETF to ask you to participate in our first annual IETF community survey.  This survey will help us better understand our community and its makeup, get your views on how well the IETF works for you and your perceptions of the IETF, and give us insight into how we compare to similar organisations.  Even if you no longer participate in the IETF or have never actively participated, we still want to hear from you.


I am slightly surprised not to see something from the IETF Chair about 
this, such as who commissioned the survey and why.  I note that one of 
the questions is about how well the IETF is managed and the lack of 
anything from IETF Chair, IESG (IAB?) etc beforehand colours my response 
to that question.  I would have expected advance warning from some such.

Tom Petch



> Please help us by filling out this survey, it should only take about six minutes of your time:
>
> 	https://ietf.iad1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_b9ibDun9807ZT8O
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> This survey is completely anonymous and the only data we collect are the answers that you provide, nothing else.
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> 	https://www.ietf.org/blog/first-annual-ietf-community-survey/
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> Thanks in advance
> Jay
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